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superborb ([personal profile] superborb) wrote2022-01-27 09:53 pm

Media Diet, January

Er. Perhaps I should have broken this month into halves. Or started doing Reading Wednesday? I'm posting this a few days early anyway, bc I anticipate CNY will take up considerable time this weekend.

Audiobooks:

The Deep, by Rivers Solomon, read by Daveed Diggs: Inspired by the clipping. song The Deep and the earlier Drexciya works where there is an underwater society descended from the unborn children of enslaved pregnant women thrown overboard during the Atlantic slave trade, in this novella the main character holds all the memory of her people (very Giver-esque), until the burden of holding all the trauma becomes too much and she runs away. On her journey, she rediscovers the two-leggers, falls in love, and tries to find a new way forward for their community. (I got this from [personal profile] skygiants' rec.) The concept was very interesting! I just kind of felt the novella could have been meatier? It was trying to do a lot, but didn't really quite hit depth (hehe). Though to be perfectly fair, I was also listening right after surgery so like, a reread with the book copy might be needed to form a full judgement. I thought it was surprisingly not grim for the premise and I overall enjoyed it!

Aru Shah and the End of Time, by Roshani Chokshi, read by Soneela Nankani: the first in a children's book series, centered around a girl who has a habit of lying, is found out by some of her classmates, lights a cursed lamp, and discovers that a) Hindu mythology is real, b) she is a reincarnation of one of the Pandava brothers, and c) she has to go save the world. [personal profile] liv recced later parts of the series, so I thought I'd start at the beginning. Thoroughly enjoyable, but VERY AMERICAN. I mean, yes, both the Pandava sisters and the real-world setting are American, but something about the way that other religions interact really pinged me as American too. Just factual, not a negative. Super enjoyable overall! Kept up a good steady level of excitement and nice pacing. I'd totally rec this for any kids.

Deeplight, by Frances Hardinge, read by Joshua Akehurst: fantasy-horror (nominally) YA set on an island chain where some decades ago the gods of sea that terrorized the people just-- destroyed each other. The main character is a street urchin who runs petty cons, until his best friend ropes him into some more serious trouble. [personal profile] meitachi  put this as her favorite read of 2021! I say nominally, because it didn't read that much as a YA? VERY good worldbuilding. Do have to ignore the physics of how pressure affects the body, which is plot-conveniently acknowledged. Worldbuilding is good in both the fantasy sense (interesting myths! weird gods!), the setting sense (how would a society that did a lot of deep water exploration be shaped? and the prevalence + acceptance/honoring of Deafness), and the character sense (everyone has their own motivations! no one is wholly good or evil!). The beginning-middle bit was a bit slow, and I was not-- super convinced of how it presented the ~complex morality~ of some of the choices. But overall! Really satisfying.

A Wizard of Earthsea, by Ursula K. Le Guin, read by Harlan Ellison (DNF). Ellison's narration was a terrible mismatch for me-- far too much variation in speed / volume that messed with my ability to process. I thought after the previous three audiobooks were reasonably smooth listens that I was getting better at processing audiobooks, but no, just a run of readers suited to my taste. I'll finish this up as a regular book at some later point.

The Beginning Place, by Ursula K. Le Guin, read by Rob Inglis: two young adults visit a strange, hidden world within a nearby wood, where something has caused the townspeople to have an unspeakable fear of leaving the town. Though the audiobook was decently read, I struggled to understand some of the connotations of what was happening in that form. It's a quieter book, and both characters are not very likable or living nice lives, so I can see why people might not like it as much as her sparklier books, but I enjoyed thinking about the ~symbolism~ and such.

树上的鱼, by 刘保法, read by 羽瑶 (DNF): a series of cute children's stories, of the fairytale variety. The cover (a tree growing out of a fish!) looked really enticing, but it was just too young for me to really enjoy. Nicely read + stories were cute though, so I imagine it fills its niche well.

三生三世谁许桃花, by 雨微醺, read by 刘艳丽 and 艾威 (DNF): afaict a pretty standard mythology fic, one of those angsty romance types. Didn't catch my interest enough to continue (it's 12 hours long...), since it's not really a genre I enjoy. I do wish English audiobooks would use different actors for reading out dialog, like Chinese audiobooks do, instead of trying to do voices; it's much easier for me to process, unless the narrator is incredibly skilled.


Books:

The Galaxy, and the Ground Within, by Becky Chambers: three travelers at a rest stop planet end up stuck there with their hosts. I /thought/ this had been highly recced by multiple people, but DW search only brings up [personal profile] skygiantsreview as wholly positive! Hm! Theoretically this is the last book of the series, but I felt it stood well enough alone. From context clues, it seems the mentioned human boyfriend (all the main characters are aliens) must have been in at least one earlier work. I liked it a lot! I liked the weird aliens-- they were mm... very soft scifi? But overall they were satisfyingly weird and had interesting cultural and physical differences. It did sometimes veer into over-explaining things that need not be explained and each alien seemed to come from a bit of a monolith culture. But its focus on relationships between such different people and exploration of their psyches will make it a safe rec for most of my flist here. (Or so I thought before I did that search and found such ambivalent reviews! *shocked pikachu face*)

Where the Wild Ladies Are, by Aoko Matsuda, translated by Polly Barton: a myth-inspired supernatural-but-modern-day short story collection, strongly centered on women's stories. From [personal profile] skygiantsrec. Started a bit weak, but as the interconnections between stories became clear, it became much stronger. Really liked how that contributed to a sense of worldbuilding, which often is difficult in short stories-- the spaces between the stories made it seem like a vaster world. At the same time, it wouldn't have worked as just a single novel, because the tone of the different pieces were sometimes very different, making this a deeply necessary use of the medium of 'short story collection.' A short but highly satisfying read.

How the Word is Passed, by Clint Smith: the author goes to several sites and explores the history of slavery in America. From [personal profile] sophia_sol 's rec! The trivial complaint: stylistically, the excessive description made the pace plodding; I am just not a visual person and page long descriptions of clothing add approximately nothing for me. Overall, the problem for me was really that I am well read enough on the history of slavery in the US and how it relates to the modern prison labor system etc etc that the new facts content was minimal, meaning the novelty of the book had to rest primarily on the interviews. I think the frame of visiting the individual sites, the interviews with varied people, the ~personal journey~ are all great! The chapter that really worked for me was the Angola one, where the emotional overlay and illustrative details were highly effective. If one wasn't as familiar with the history, this would be a solid starting point.

Country Driving, by Peter Hessler: three extended stories about 1) his exploration of northern China following the Great Wall(s), 2) a family in a small town where he's rented a weekend house, and 3) a factory that makes the little nylon o rings in bras; this book was published in 2010 and the events are all very 2000s China. If you have a very low tolerance for white guy goes to be a journalist in a developing country, do avoid, esp as it's very much his personal experiences from his biased PoV. But I think he generally does a decent job of being open-minded, and the 2000s of it all does partially explain (the few!) :gritted teeth: moments. (Though tbh, the biggest :gritted teeth: moment for me was how during his various drives west, he seemed to primarily subsist on sugar and soft drinks, which he mentions alarmingly frequently.) My main complaint is actually about the editing, and I wonder if it's been stitched together from several articles, because he'll repeat things already said, but not in a reminder-y way, as if they're new info, and the timeline jumps are not well indicated. There were also a few missed pinyin typos and at one point he thinks hotpot is boiling oil. Anyway, I don't regret reading it, and it's not particularly relevant for modern-day China, but it was pleasingly nostalgic for a bygone era.

How Much of These Hills Is Gold, by C Pam Zhang (DNF): set during the California Gold Rush, the story of two orphaned young Chinese American siblings. The author is very into the lush prose, which I am not. This would be fine, except I found the internal logic frustratingly inconsistent. How can this be the first major water Lucy has seen and yet both siblings can swim? At one point, drinking water without boiling it is a major mistake, then Lucy drinks cold water directly (during her period!)? If you're going to use era-inappropriate Mandarin pinyin, at least do the pinyin right and group the syllables into words. The Chinglish of the 'two syllables in Mandarin and the rest of the sentence in English' is generally Not to My Taste either. IDK, I know the author wanted it to be as ahistoric as any white novel establishing the myth of America, but the world just felt SO ahistoric and inconsistent that I couldn't continue.

Land of Big Numbers, by Te-Ping Chen: ten short stories, real world-ish (except two) China (also except two) slice-of-life-ish with neither happy nor sad endings. From [personal profile] meitachi's rec! I think you can really tell the journalistic experience of the author in the precision of the gaze and practiced feel of the prose. I mostly enjoyed the stories, but none really stood out and I feel like I'd have enjoyed them more as separate short stories instead of in a collection. (I seem to be solving the 'how to track short story consumption' problem by reading them as collections though haha.)


Visual media:

The Great Canadian Baking Show (season 4): I kind of dipped in and out during a marathon watch party, so I didn't catch everything, but I did have a Thought: I feel like the latest GBBO seasons, a lot of the bakers were dedicating time to practicing their bakes during the week and it seems that that isn't happening here? Combined with how the judges seem much nicer than in GBBO, it feels like a return to the roots of a more amateur baking competition.

The Handmaiden (2016): an erotic f/f psychological thriller, set in Korea during Japanese rule. It was really lush and beautifully shot-- the CGI was nearly all enhancements, and only stood out poorly in one scene near the end. I really enjoyed the flashbacks, as scenes are replayed with new information at hand from a different PoV. What's the rule, that porn should add something to the characterization? Definitely most of the scenes qualified, but eh, they sometimes went on gratuitously long. The actors were uniformly excellent, and were occasionally needed to carry weaker sections of plot. Overall, don't regret watching, but I'd only rec if all the bits of the first sentence seem your cup of tea.

Kieta Hatsukoi (My Love Mix-Up!): light high school BL, heavy on miscommunication storylines and characters who are Good. Jdramas really have such a deft touch for those kinds of storylines! It did get a little repetitive towards the end though. It is mostly a light show and hits the marks on time, with conflicts resolved pretty rapidly and through the characters being genuinely caring about each other. I am 99% sure this is a 'I'm not quite the target audience' thing, but there was a little too much gratuitous homophobia for such a light show for my taste, and so ep 8 was a definite low point. I... honestly might recommend skipping the ep if you're here for a purely 'light BL' experience. Overall, what it says on the tin! The two mains are very cute.
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[personal profile] halfcactus 2022-01-28 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
I do wish English audiobooks would use different actors for reading out dialog, like Chinese audiobooks do,
I didn’t know this was a thing in CN audiobooks, that’s really cool. :o But I have listened to a couple of full cast audiobooks, they’re just a rarity and I’m not sure they’re to your taste! (One was World War Z, which made for a very immersive apocalyptic experience, though the audiobook version removes parts (I don’t remember how much) of the written book. The other was Tamora Pierce’s Circle of Magic, which, if you liked, was ADORABLE because you hear all the kids’ voices.)
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[personal profile] halfcactus 2022-01-28 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
Of this list, I’m adding Deeplight and the short story collection to my wishlist haha. Hardinge takes me much longer to read because her books require attention, but it’s always so worth it for the satisfaction and her turns of phrases. I’m so happy and excited that Deeplight seemed to be well received in your circle!!! I completely forgot about it.

TY for the Kiekoi heads-up! I think it’s one of those shows that I won’t watch alone because I want more plot with my romance haha. (I’m still reccing What Did You Eat Yesterday to you, at least the 1st season since I haven’t seen the second. It’s food-centric slice-of-life BL about older adults who are already in a relationship, and it seems to have some commentary about gay culture in Japan. But has some big secondhand embarrassment moments in some scenes—they all end fine. I think you might enjoy the cooking scenes, at least. XD)
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[personal profile] halfcactus 2022-01-29 10:47 am (UTC)(link)
Where are you getting your CN audiobooks? Are they official ones or fanmade ones? I was under the impression that it’s very normal in fanculture to just… podfic entire novels and post them in Ximalaya(?) haha I’m so curious about the audio adaptation culture. Some of the audiodramas on Maoer do also seem like independent fan productions.

And yeah, we’re watchpartying Kiekoi and I’m already kind of stressed even though it’s still less miscommunication-y than expected 😂 I was surprised to see you were done, I hope that was multiple sessions lol.

Re: watch piles - I have pretty much salted and burned my old lists and just let my whims dictate my choices (which took me to Reset). XD Congrats on a successful post-surgery TBR elimination game 😂 I’m sorry I was so dubious of your audiobook processing skills 😂
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[personal profile] likeadeuce 2022-01-28 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
I definitely thought 'The Galaxy and the Ground Within' was the strongest Chambers book and that it would stand on its own for people who hadn't read the previous ones, and so I'm glad you found that to be the case.
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[personal profile] likeadeuce 2022-01-28 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I would agree -- there's some neat stuff in the other ones but the 'stranded at a stopover' concept is a great frame for the kind of worldbuilding and character work Chambers does whereas the others ramble a bit
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[personal profile] sophia_sol 2022-01-31 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually personally found that some of Chambers' earlier works landed better for me! Although "The Galaxy, and the Ground Within" is perhaps the most complete expression of the kind of book Chambers aims to write, "A Closed and Common Orbit" and "To Be Taught, If Fortunate" both were absolutely incredible imo and I adored them!
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[personal profile] trascendenza 2022-01-28 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I appreciate the heads up on How Much of These Hills Is Gold, the use of Mandarin for that time period and setting in addition to the other issues makes this one a no go for me. Such a bummer because there aren't nearly enough POC-centered stories about the California Gold Rush!
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[personal profile] chestnut_pod 2022-01-28 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
(You might like the graphic novel The Legend of Auntie Po by Shin Ying Khor?)
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[personal profile] trascendenza 2022-02-01 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the pointer, this looks right up my alley!
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[personal profile] chestnut_pod 2022-01-28 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
What an awesome spread! I particularly appreciated hearing about your audiobook likes and dislikes. I too wish more audiobooks were fully produced; it's so fun as a listener, and, as a podficcer, really fun to do, too.

I wrote a very glowing review of TGATGW, which you might have seen? This one.

Regarding How the Word is Passed, specifically, I think the frame of visiting the individual sites, the interviews with varied people, the ~personal journey~ are all great! The chapter that really worked for me was the Angola one, where the emotional overlay and illustrative details were highly effective -- I just read two *awesome* books for class that do deep dives in this general area that I'd highly recommend if you would like more (and haven't already read them). Saidiya Hartman's Lose Your Mother and Dionne Brand's A Map to the Door of No Return. Heavy reads, but full of food for thought.
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[personal profile] chestnut_pod 2022-01-28 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
It's another good one, I think, and the end produces interesting reactions in people :D
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[personal profile] sophia_sol 2022-01-31 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooh, the Hartman and Brand books look fabulous, I'm going to add those to my tbr list!
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[personal profile] skygiants 2022-01-29 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
WELL I STILL THINK I'M RIGHT ABOUT 'GALAXY' even if more of dw disagrees with me than you thought! 😂 I'm glad you enjoyed it -- I agree that I think it's the best of Chambers' series; though I also really liked Closed and Common Orbit and Record of a Spaceborn Few, for quite different reasons, I don't think either of them quite nail the project overall as well as Galaxy does.

I'm also really glad you liked Wild Ladies, I definitely thought that the build of the broader world and the interconnectivity in the interstitials was a big part of its charm! (SO pleased that 'girlfriend ghost museum heist' got to happen in the background of another story, a great gift for me in particular.)
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[personal profile] cortue 2022-01-29 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
In terms of audiobook narrators, I recently got an English one that did the different actors for different voices and found it so distracting because it's not what I'm used to. This might have been because it was one main narrator for everything but two characters, each of whom were played by separate actors. In the ones your speaking about is there a main narrator voice and then every other voice gets a separate actor?

I DNFed How Much of These Hills is Gold early on, so I feel vindicated by this review. Also, I certainly liked The Galaxy and the Ground Within! Both Pei and her human boyfriend are in the first book and are part of one of the overarching questions the book dealt with that I thought was really interesting - basically whether or not the crew of the ship should arm themselves for their own safety. The human boyfriend is a pacifist and takes it seriously. I remember at the time of reading it I really hadn't seen any other scifi that took violence and guns seriously as opposed to just aesthetic accessories. I believe some of the aliens in this book are mentioned in the earlier ones as well and I really liked seeing the different political perspectives they had - though I do agree they are weak to the idea that alien societies are more uniform.

Ooo I might check out the Canadian baking show then! I liked GBBO as background noise for awhile but it just got so harsh and high in ridiculous expectations for people who were meant to be doing this in their free time.
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[personal profile] sophia_sol 2022-01-31 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
I really liked The Deep a lot exactly as it was, but I definitely would not have objected to a meatier version of the book! Rivers Solomon is definitely capable of going meatier; their novel An Unkindness of Ghosts was brilliant, imo, and had that greater length to really dig into what it was doing.

For Deeplight, I've actually generally seen Frances Hardinge categorized as middle grade rather than YA, so that might explain why it didn't feel YA to you! YA seems to me to have codified itself into like....an identifiable set of tropes, these days, rather than just being "books intended for teens" like I feel the genre label ought to mean.

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[personal profile] sophia_sol 2022-01-31 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I've definitely been realizing in recent years that the cluster of tropes that modern YA focuses on are not tropes that tend to speak to me, which is disappointing! And it makes it hard to talk about books that don't fall into those tropes -- like Elatsoe, which is about a teenage character but has interests and themes that tend to be more common in middle-grade, so is it a middle-grade novel that just happens to have a main character who's older than its readers, or is it an atypical YA novel? I've heard arguments in both directions.

A lot of older books are much less clear about what age-range they're intended for; for example, Rosemary Sutcliff's books predate the existence of these marketing categories, and although she was thought of as an author of children's books at the time, if they were written today they'd never be considered for publishing in the children's-book market. They feature adult main characters! And weird old-fashioned prose! And themes that seem out of step from what children are "supposed" to be interested in! And I think that, although the proliferation of books for kids and middle-graders and teens these days is wonderful and has produced many amazing books, we also lose something when the ideas of what can be published in each of these categories becomes so narrow.