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1. I didn't mention it in the first post, because it doesn't quite fit (NHS is the acknowledged heir), but NHS fits into a well known trope, that of the artistic/literary younger prince. Historically, this was done to ensure that said prince wasn't seen as a threat whoever was meant to be inheriting (to sometimes bad ends when the younger prince did end up inheriting and oh, hadn't learned how to rule). Jacytheblue pointed out that post-timeskip, NHS is definitely playing this trope up for comedy (as it is often used).

2. Let me potentially dabble into controversy. I was a bit !!! at my bf about why this post got popular and he pointed out another reason why NHS may be often read as feminine. And that is, because he's physically the weakest one. I uh, hope that this isn't a motivating reason for fandom, but cannot help but think that it must contribute? (This would be a bias that crosses into the cdrama world too, from what I can tell)

3. Now I can make a very biased, anecdotal observation into patterns of engagement on DW/tumblr/twitter. (Though: still baffled why /this/ was such a popular post.) Namely, it's the hardest to have a conversation on tumblr: a few people put some followup comments in the tags, but uh, I see no way to respond to them? Nor did it seem like it invited response.

DW, of course, was the easiest to have a short conversation in, and despite having the fewest eyeballs on it, probably had the highest reply-to-read ratio (obviously an assumption, but based on the number of people who could have possibly seen it...). Posting on the comm (thanks rekishi for suggesting!) was not the crickets I was expecting either!

Twitter's notifications became completely unusable (the mentions tab stopped working, and over on tweetdeck, it only aggregates the last X notifs), which made it much harder to follow conversations. At first, there were very few replies-that-invited-conversation, but when I woke up this morning, there were more, which was excellent. I remain confused if -- QRTs are inviting conversation with me + the person's followers or just the person's followers? I assume a reply to my thread, as I am @'d is explicitly an invitation.
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Date: 2020-12-05 19:04 (UTC)
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I really liked your first post, and this is a neat follow-up. I'm mostly in listening mode when it comes to cdrama meta, but I like the way this slots in beside my straight!NHS headcanon. I sincerely love every individual queer/nb/trans!NHS I've read, but I'd been getting a bit frowny about the collective trend, and the way many fans (many people) conflate gender presentation or just general affect, interests and tastes with sexuality and gender identity. I write him straight just as a counterweight, but I love knowing what actual Chinese cultural cues are in play.
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Date: 2020-12-06 23:24 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] unrelaxing
Haven't read the meta being discussed but I loved the observations on the different platforms. DW is really the best place to meta, if you can find an active fandom (less rare with cdramas, rare for everything else).
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Date: 2020-12-06 23:35 (UTC)
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Thankies for the link!!

I'm in Buzzfeed Unsolved fandom and really have no choice but to tread the waters of tumblr (and discord), though I have held off on using twitter for that particular fandom (RPF is not great on tiwtter generally). SIGH. How do I get everyone to use DW ;_;
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Date: 2020-12-07 16:27 (UTC)
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I finished the show last night so I can now fully appreciate any insights re: NHS. Yay!

I'm glad you shared this--it makes me realize he was using that persona as yet another way of having people underestimate him. Fascinating!

it's the hardest to have a conversation on tumblr: a few people put some followup comments in the tags, but uh, I see no way to respond to them? Nor did it seem like it invited response.

I hate trying to have conversations on Tumblr. Tumblr is for pretty gifsets and hilarious shitposts.
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Date: 2020-12-07 17:21 (UTC)
lirazel: Lamia from the film Stardust ([film] stardust)
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Ah! See, I find twitter relentlessly overwhelming and thus have never had an account. Funny how differently we react to things!

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