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[superborb]

Don't pay lip service to "oh we don't speak for all the diaspora" and then if someone disagrees call them names and say how much self hatred they have.

You do not speak for all the diaspora.

I try to always express myself cleanly and I'm always, always willing to change my views with more data (the sign of a scientist!). I was already hesitant to say anything bc it didn't sound like opposing views would be entertained at all, so I narrowed my arguments to the most major, (I thought) unobjectionable flaw. I doubt any of the more fuzzy ones about diaspora vs mainland politics, the element of the fantastical, or the transformative nature of our fandom would have been entertained at all!

I'm actually shocked at how upset I am over this. I'm so glad the mdzs/cql fandom let me meet new folks, but I can't say that it was a good experience overall.

(Xposted from twitter for posterity/archiving purposes)

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[superborb]

Oh yeah, I guess I've only really joined public discords that have links posted publicly? But it is hard to just check out a discord without fully joining it, and a lot of discords are private so you'd need the connection.

The thing is, it feels like an echo chamber, but I also think it's super fragmented, which seems like it'd preempt the echo chamber part...

[rekishi]

Yes, but you need to. Find the links? Where they are posted? Yes this was similar in IRC days, but I always thought that was so much more accessible.

I can't tell since I am not ON tumblr (or twitter), I just read some tumblrs on RSS and there it feels very... I think it's this talking AT people. Idk, maybe people talk and I never see it?

Maybe I'm just complaining too much or it's my depression rearing its head, idk.

[superborb]

There's a public list of servers here: https://disboard.org/, which is where I've always been linked!

Yeah, I followed via RSS for a while, but I think people will reblog with comments? And sometimes reply on the post? IDK I don't really understand tumblr still.

[rekishi]

Mh. But there I don't find anything which I'm on currently or was on and abandoned for other reasons. None of the inception servers I was on nor my very public Farscape server. So mh. i dunno. ^^;;;;

Yeah I can't speculate on tumblr. I know there's whole tag culture thing going on but it's super confusing to me and apparently also rude to reblog gifs with comments added??? Idek, I'm not going there. DW can keep me busy, I will simply spectate that corner of fandom. And ignore twitter entirely, because that's doomscrolling.

[superborb]

Maybe you have to list it and no one has? But most of the newer fandoms seem to be listed -- it's how to found NIF and MDZS discords (though I didn't really enjoy the latter). I guess there's a lot that aren't listed of course!

[rekishi]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Maybe? Idk. It't not consistent. IRC wasn't consistent either, but here I feel more removed.